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, this is a letter from then cia director leon panetta to john mccain saying the information was not from the detainee program. we first learned about the facilitator courier's mom de guerre from a detainee not in cia custody in 2000. it also is important to note that some detainees who were subjected to enhanced interrogation techniques attempted to provide false or misleading information. what was your sense on the information that was used? >> first of all, thank you for having me. i agree with leon panetta. that was accurate what i experienced and my colleagues experienced. the film leaves a strong impression were it not for the torture that proceeded the report-based techniques, were it not for the torture that the report-based techniques would not have worked. in fact, the torture delayed the effectiveness of the report-based technique that is the fbi has been using for many decades to successfully get hardened serial killers, for example, to confess to very heinous crimes. it works with detain knees as well. in fact, what i did when i went down there and the first interrogation pla
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